Would you sleep in a 300-year-old inn? For and since with the present perfect and How long…?
About this lesson
This B1 ESL lesson plan teaches for and since with the present perfect at Longfellow's Wayside Inn in Sudbury, Massachusetts, an inn whose story goes back to 1716.
- Grammar
- Have / has + past participle with for + a period or since + a starting point (I've been here since Monday.), and How long…? questions.
- Topic
- The Wayside Inn, Longfellow's book of tales and Henry Ford's grist mill, with hotel words such as check in, front desk and clerk.
- Activities
- A feature to read, a check-in at the front desk and a listener's question to hear, five self-checking drills, a chat at a Vermont inn and open-box questions.
What's inside
Chapter 1Check-in time!
Chapter 2A night in 1716
Chapter 3Live from the front desk
Chapter 4Grammar: I've been here since Monday
- Study the scheme: for and sinceGrammar schemeTry it
- Choose the correct option: for or sinceChoose the optionUnlock
- Fill in the gaps: the present perfect with for and sinceFill in the gapsUnlock
- Fill in the table: the present perfect with for and sinceFill in the tableTry it
- Drag the words into the gaps: an evening at the innDrag and dropUnlock
- Choose the right sentenceQuizUnlock
Chapter 5Your turn: how long have you…?
Chapter 6Homework
- Match the words and the meaningsMatchUnlock
- Unscramble the wordsAnagramUnlock
- Fill in the gaps with the lesson's wordsFill in the gapsUnlock
- Find the matching pairsMemory gameUnlock
- Sort the words into the correct columns: for or since?Sort into columnsUnlock
- Choose the correct optionChoose the optionUnlock
- Fill in the gaps: make sentences with for and sinceFill in the gapsUnlock
- Put the words in the correct orderUnjumbleUnlock
- Choose the correct option: a guest's reviewChoose the optionUnlock
- Drag the words into the gaps: Jade's answer to LoganDrag and dropUnlock
Hotel vocabulary
12 words and phrases from the lesson, each with a picture and audio in edio.
+9 more with pictures and audio in the lessonMore words
- innkeeper
- front desk
- check in
- tale
- poem
- grist mill
- bypass
- license
- clerk
Grammar: for and since with the present perfect
For and since answer How long? about something that began in the past and is still true now, so the verb is in the present perfect. For measures the time; since names the moment it started. With an inn whose story goes back to 1716, learners pair each time phrase with for or since, ask How long…? and keep finished time in the past simple.
How long? I've been here since Monday.
Use the present perfect (have / has + past participle) with for or since for something that started in the past and is still true now.
For + a period, since + a starting point
For goes with a length of time: for three nights, for ages, for more than 300 years. Since goes with the moment something began: since Monday, since 1716, since four o'clock. Both work for every person: He has worked at the inn for six years.
for or since?
| for + how much time | since + when it started |
|---|---|
| for three nights | since Monday |
| for six years | since 2020 |
| for more than 300 years | since 1716 |
| for ages | since I was a kid |
| for two hours | since four o'clock |
| for a long time | since last summer |
Every person
| Who | for + a period | since + a starting point |
|---|---|---|
| I | I have been here for three nights. | I have been here since Monday. |
| you | You have had this room for two days. | You have had this room since Monday. |
| he (Irving) | He has worked at the inn for six years. | He has worked there since he was nineteen. |
| she | She has known Meredith for ages. | She has known her since high school. |
| it (the diner) | It has been open for decades. | It has been open since 1958. |
| we | We have owned our car for a long time. | We have owned it since I was a kid. |
| they (the innkeepers) | They have welcomed guests for more than 300 years. | They have welcomed guests since 1716. |
How long…? questions and short answers
How long comes first, then have or has, the subject and the past participle: How long has Irving worked at the inn? A short answer needs only the time phrase: For six years. Since 1716. For ages!
| Question | Answer |
|---|---|
| How long have you been here? | For two days. / Since Monday. |
| How long has Irving worked at the inn? | For six years. |
| How long has the inn welcomed travelers? | Since 1716. |
| How long have they owned the diner? | Since 1958. |
| How long have you known Logan? | For ages! |
Present perfect, not present simple
For time up to now, English uses the present perfect here, not the present simple, even though the situation is still true: I've been here since Monday, not I'm here since Monday. The same goes for know and be open: The diner has been open since 1958.
Present perfect, not present simple
For time up to now, use the present perfect: I've been here since Monday (not: I'm here since Monday). I've known her for years (not: I know her for years). The diner has been open since 1958 (not: It's open since 1958). Short forms: I've, you've, we've, they've; he's, she's, it's (= has).
How long have you been here? or How long are you here for?
How long have you been here? looks back from now, so the answer is Since Monday or For three days. How long are you here for? asks about a plan, and its answer looks ahead: Until Friday. Two more nights.
How long have you been here? How long are you here for?
How long have you been here? asks about the time up to now: Since Monday. / For three days. How long are you here for? asks about your plan: Until Friday. / Two more nights.
Since + a clause, and finished time
After since, a whole clause in the past simple can follow: since I was a kid, since we moved here. When the time is over, the past simple returns, even with for: Henry Ford owned the inn for more than 20 years. He doesn't own it now.
since + a sentence, and finished time
After since, you can use a whole sentence in the past simple: since I was a kid, since we moved here. For finished time, use the past simple, also with for: Henry Ford owned the inn for more than 20 years (he doesn't own it now). Longfellow visited for one day.
Common mistakes
I'm here since Monday.
I've been here since Monday.
time up to now: the present perfect
I know her for years.
I've known her for years.
time up to now: I've known, not I know
We've had this room since three days.
We've had this room for three days.
a period: for
The inn has welcomed travelers for 1716.
The inn has welcomed travelers since 1716.
a starting point: since
At the inn
- The inn has welcomed travelers since 1716.
- A trust has owned the inn since the 1940s.
- Irving has worked at the front desk for six years.
- How long have you been here? – Since six this morning.
- Logan's family has owned a diner since 1958.
- I've loved old buildings since I was a kid.
More lessons on this grammar: Present perfect lessons and exercises
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What's in the lesson
- 18 auto-checked exercises
- 5 games
- 1 article
- 1 grammar scheme
- 1 set of word cards
- 2 audio clips
- 2 pictures
- 2 transcripts
The main objectives of this lesson are to:
- say how long something has been true with for + a period: Irving has worked at the front desk for six years. We've had this room for three days.
- use since + a starting point, a year or a past-simple clause: A trust has owned the inn since the 1940s. I've loved old buildings since I was a kid.
- ask and answer How long have you been here? – Since six this morning., and tell it from How long are you here for?, which asks about a plan
- keep the present perfect for time up to now: I've known her for years, not I know her for years; for three days, never since three days
Lesson 2 continues Travel smart, unit 1 of English B1.1 · Stories That Travel. It builds on lesson 1, where the present perfect covered time that isn't finished, and lesson 3 turns to indirect questions for polite requests. An inn whose story goes back to 1716 is full of things that began long ago and are still true, which is exactly what for and since describe.
Students spin a wheel of questions about hotels and old buildings, then learn twelve words, from welcome and own to grist mill and bypass, with pictures and audio. Jade's feature on a night in 1716 comes with true-or-false statements and a quiz. Two AI-voiced listenings follow: Jade checking in with Irving, the front-desk clerk, and Logan, whose family has owned a diner since 1958. Five self-checking drills come after the scheme, among them a table of for and since for every person. Last, students check in at a Vermont inn in a chat and open boxes of How long…? questions.
All ten homework tasks check themselves: a word match, an anagram, a gap-fill with the lesson's words and a memory game, then a sort of time phrases into for and since, a choice of tense or time word, sentences to build from prompts and to put in order, a guest's review with options and Jade's reply to Logan with gaps.
- Grammar:
- present perfect · for and since · How long…?
- Topic:
- the Wayside Inn · Sudbury, Massachusetts · inns and hotels · checking in · Longfellow · the Boston Post Road · Stories That Travel
Teaching tips
- Draw a timeline from 1716 to now and mark 1923, the 1940s and 1973. Students make a sentence for each date and spot the one that needs the past simple: Henry Ford doesn't own the inn now.
- Before the feature, ask about the oldest building nearby: how long has it been there? Students answer with for or since, then read to find out how long the inn has stood on its road.
- Pause the front-desk dialogue before each answer and let students guess Irving's reply with for or since, then play on to check. At the end, ask what Jade plans to do that Longfellow never did.
- Turn the check-in chat into a role-play: one student runs the front desk and asks How long have you been on the road? and How long are you here for?, the other answers about a real trip.
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The whole course: English B1.1 · Stories That Travel
32 lessons for adults at B1 in American English, each built around a true story. Riley, Jade and Darius make a podcast in Kansas City about true American stories, and each lesson tells one, from a seaplane airport in Alaska to the Marfa Lights of West Texas. Learners compare the present perfect with the past simple, use future forms, modals and quantifiers, and give their own opinions. The practice exercises check themselves.See the course
Unit 1 Travel smart
the present perfect vs the past simple, for and since, indirect questions, be used to and get used to
Lesson 1Would you visit an airport just for fun?Present perfect vs past simple
Lesson 2 · you're hereWould you sleep in a 300-year-old inn?For and since with the present perfect
Lesson 3My suitcase has gone to Honolulu!Indirect questions for polite requests
Lesson 4Can you practice a flight?Be used to and get used to
Unit 2 Dream jobs, new jobs
will have to and won't be allowed to, the present perfect continuous, simple vs continuous, would vs used to
Lesson 5Would you jump off a moving boat for a job?Will have to, will be able to and will be allowed to
Lesson 6Working from anywherePresent perfect continuous
Lesson 7Could you be a camp counselor?Present perfect simple vs continuous
Lesson 8Would you live in a lighthouse?Would vs used to for the past
Unit 3 Space and discovery
it's + adjective + to, What's it like to…?, future forms compared, future time clauses, too and enough + to
Unit 4 Life online
the more…, the more…, be supposed to, ought to and had better, let, make and allow
Lesson 13The internet's first word was “LO”Comparative and comparative; the more…, the more…
Lesson 14Who sent the first spam?Be supposed to for rules, expectations and plans
Lesson 15Is your password really safe?Ought to and had better for advice and warnings
Lesson 16Who writes Wikipedia?Let, make and allow + someone
Unit 5 Screen and page
-ed and -ing adjectives, gradable and extreme adjectives, present tenses for a plot, articles for things in general
Lesson 17Why do readers still love Nancy Drew?-ed and -ing adjectives for feelings
Lesson 18Movie night in your carGradable and extreme adjectives
Lesson 19Would you review a book on TV?Present tenses to tell a plot
Lesson 20Where are the books about girls like me?Articles for things in general and specific things
Unit 6 Green living
few and a few, little and a little, all, most, some and none, each and every, fewer and less
Unit 7 Sporting moments
could, was able to and managed to, for, during and while, present tenses for live commentary, question tags
Unit 8 Mysteries and lost worlds
both… and, either… or and neither… nor, uncountable nouns, how sure we are about the future, unless, as long as and in case















